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My Final Thought on Feminism -Maybe- by ColumbianSFR My Final Thought on Feminism -Maybe- by ColumbianSFR
Why be a Feminist when I could be a Egalitarianist...  They both "share" understanding on how sexism exists, but I chose to be a Egalitarianist, because of my experiences and based on what viewed.

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I personally am a Egalitarianist as stated, I believe both genders have their ups and downs, there's no denying that, sometimes its better to be the other in some stances sometimes its not. 

While I have my "Grudges" against Feminism's radicals with them being very anti-male in near all issues, I do hold some sympathies to some of the moderates, and lites who share some acknowledgement that sexism is on both sides and should be prevented.  In all fairness, I've never seen nor heard many feminists bring up men on our disadvantages in society.  I could bring up a few things off the top of my head like, Men and The War Draft, in which I view either both should be required or none should.

I also believe that claiming "all men" are evil, and saying horrible barbaric things like "kill all men" to be not only sexist and severely arrogant, but it can deliver very dangerous consequences or  create a sexist environment in the future.  Not to mention you are insulting your male followers and male feminists out there, also you claim to be pro-LGBT, but at the same time the majority of you claim, all men are bad, so how can you be pro gay for guys?

I also dislike how some claim that women can't be sexist, because they aren't in "power".  Honestly even if that was true, that isn't an good enough excuse, let alone a rational excuse at all, sexism is defined by prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, on the basis of sex.  Let me now ask you this how many time have you created a standard for the other sex, or claimed they are a "Set" thing in a generalized manner?  Did you show prejudice, and favor for one over the other?  If so you might be semi-sexist or judgemental.

I also realize society puts men at a standard just as much as society put a standard against women.  
I honestly do not care, man or woman I hold both to similar standards.

I wish to close the gap as much as I can, I know it's impossible to be 100% Equal, but it's possible to have the same opportunities, pay for the same work, etc.

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I'm aware I brought up mostly male issues in which most of you might expand on it or include female issues in which I'd welcome it, but try not to be snobby or argue about it please.

Overall, I'd rather side with a Philosophy that not only acknowledges the issues of both sides, but helps both, rather than just focusing on one genders issues.

Honestly I know not all of you are on my side of this issue, but overall I tried to do a brief of my views.
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:iconstarlingwriter:
StarlingWriter Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
WOMEN TRY MAN SPREADING FOR A WEEK
WHY DOES THAT VIDEO COME TO MIND?!
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Void696 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2016
YES! Same here! Feminism does not stand for equality. Egalitarianism all the way! B-)
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illuminatitriforce Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2016
I vote for extinction
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:iconcolumbiansfr:
ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2016
Death  I second that vote.  My Nuke Emoticon 
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illuminatitriforce Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2016
and so do many others
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Strongcheetah24 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 11, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
I don't think men are evil. You see, I'm a girl, but I think you're right about this
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2016
Thanks ma'am, I know not all gals hate or consider males evil, but I kinda made this as a semi-protest against the modern hyper sensitive branch of psuedo-Feminism, the sad thing is I wanted to expand on this and explain why I dislike the modern form, but I kinda stopped caring about the whole "Feminism vs Egalitarianism" lately because it all seems as its fallen to a identification war, If both truly care about equality they should be natural allies, but it seems at least from what I've seen is anymore it looks like people only care about who identifies as what, and not equality of responsibility/opportunity/expectation anymore.  What makes it even more sad is I liked & kind of admired Feminism(In theory) in the mid to late 2000's, but in the 2010's I basically lost most of my respect for it as movement seems to devolved into Egalitarian-bashing, Male-hating, male problem mocking, false use of/exaggerating the term oppression, and non-issue complaining (Video games & media portrayals).

To kinda expand on the title & image, TLDR;
I say "Why be a Feminist when one could be a Egalitarian" or at least why I say it today is I think society need to focus on the problems of all of humanity with equal importance rather than just one gender or one race, which I see way too often today, but some how because I identif-- or when I previously identified as a Egalitarianist I was some how a racist, and a sexist A-hole to Feminists & Minorities because I didn't hold their issues with a higher urgency or importance.

Still though, there are a few Moderate & Libertarian-Fems I've seen that I kinda still admire.
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Gavin-The-Bunny Featured By Owner May 22, 2016
I'm not against egalitarianism, but....

Is "egalitarianism" even a thing? It just seems to be a word anti-feminists throw around to make feminism look bad.
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner May 22, 2016
From what I've known it as, it's a practice of treating people of all kinds equally (race, gender, culture,) but I've more or less practiced it in the past as give everyone an equal opportunity and equal social expectations.  Honestly months after making this though, I wouldn't call myself truly Egalitarian anymore as I kind of now feel there are some beliefs, cultures, and religions that are inferior to others (Especially in practice).

I'd say Egalitarianism (At least in the West) is more like "self-social improvement thing" rather than a movement.  If there is a movement it's low key.

I assume anti-feminists call themselves E
galitarianists because they believe in equally, but at the same time wish to distance themselves modern Feminists and Radical Feminists, mostly since the most vocal tend to be the ones who espouse Anti-male rhetoric or pointless crap about video games; however, to be fair most whom call themselves Egalitarianists tend to be either Semi-Equalists or trolls.  The trolls do it to obviously piss off people.

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Overall I don't understand why people care so much on what one call themselves.  The reason why I called myself an 
Egalitarianist early on was because I couldn't associate with a movement which has a history of Cisphobia, Hostility to Caucasians, along with Anti-Male comments and posts.  I know not all feminists are these bad people coming to get you and some genuinely care about equal rights, but I tend hear more about the 3rd wavers doing something questionable so I'd chose to avoid and distance myself as much as I can.
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Gavin-The-Bunny Featured By Owner May 22, 2016
Oh, okay, I see.
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jenna9999 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2016
Because egalitarianism literally makes no progress on equality.
It's just a word people throw around to counter feminism because that is what's trending right now.

Egalitarianists put zero effort into working towards actual equal rights, as opposed to feminism - which works on elevating women's rights to the same state of men's in order to achieve equality.
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Finland-Skywalker Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2017  Hobbyist Filmographer
BS!! So you're saying that people like Martin Luther King jr did nothing!!?
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owen4402 Featured By Owner May 29, 2016
Are you blind? Can you not see the difference between calling a man sexist and actually doing shit? Feminism was great, it really was, but then some people began to use it to their advantage, and it evolved into what it is today.
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mclj10 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016
"people began to use it to their advantage"
That would be women.
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owen4402 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016
yes, you get the point.
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:iconmclj10:
mclj10 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016
You clearly do not. The point of Feminism is to benifit women, in the sense that they are still not equal to men. It makes them equal. If you are opposed to men and women being equal then don't be a feminist simple as.
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owen4402 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016
I am not opposed to the equality, but I am opposed them using it as a weapon to get men fired or arrested for opposing their opinions.
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mclj10 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2016
So you're opposed to people actually fighting for womens rights, as opposed to people who sit around and talk about them and do nothing? Because lets be honest, that's the actual difference here.
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owen4402 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2016
OH MY GOD this is just arg to deal with! Its like you cannot comprehend what I am saying, and changing what you do understand to make yourself sound like the good guy. I do not believe that people should be aloud to kick and scream and cry in public because someone doesn't have the same opinions as them, and still expect to be treated as my equal, while not showing me the same respect. I do not support that a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER can be arrested because he went against a feminist's opinion that all men need to die on the internet. I do not support men with real jobs and real lives being harmed because a women just calls them sextist when they have never even interacted because a woman wanted higher wages, so she called the men in her department sextist. If you cannot understand that. I just can't even.
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Ghost-MissingNo Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Student Artist
Good, feminism is distracting people from real problems. It only have sense in 3rd world (oh dog I sound like 3rd-Worldist Maoist ^^;), where women are ACTUALLY expressed and denied rights, these kind of women I'm in awe of.

Thus said I would be masculists, if not how modern day "MRA"s are (the radical variant, MGToW is basically equivalent of a wizard) and that it's identify politics, standing against my own political beliefs ^^;.
I have a good friend who is more like those first feminists, the suffragettes and such... But she don't care about other political beliefs.
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Edited Nov 4, 2015
Women do face problems in America :| We still have problems when it comes to things like abortion and sterilization and with idiots like Trump trying to become president (and even bigger idiots who support him) are only going to make things worse :\  Just because they have it harder doesn't mean we have it easy. Homelss people here have it easy compared to people in Africa, does that mean they should just "get over" their problems? 

It's not feminists fault the Islamics are fucking religious nut cases that want to oppress everyone and their grandmother :| 
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Ghost-MissingNo Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Student Artist
*meant opressed, just look at Saudi Arabia, it must be only worse in ISIS...
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015
Honestly I'm impressed the way you worded this. :)

I've always viewed "1st World" Oppression as a joke and minor to some degree compared to the other worse off nations, but overall I just wish we all could figure out and reasonably bring up both genders issues and effectively without harassing or mudslinging, and slowly neutralize the major issues.  I really wish the double standards would die off already.
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2015
Sorry, but problems in the 1st world countries are still problems. Men can't get custody of kids as easily, women still have hards with trying to get / have an abortion. Rape culture exists (and it affects EVERYONE) at least in America. Yeah, it might not be as big of problems in other countries, butjust because someone has it worse doesn't mean shit. My problems don't help you, just like your problems don't help me.
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2015
I'm well aware when there's a problem in society like prejudices, rights & standards it needs to be rethought, or solved, like how men are treated in terms of child custody, along with the draft  & how women don't have a national legal right to abortion... My pet peeve is when people use terms like "oppression" with little things.  In no way am I trying to imply a "I don't care" or "Get over it, someone has it worse" attitude.
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015
Okay sorry for my misunderstanding. I've just know a lot of people that thought / said that our problems aren't real because it's not in Africa or the middle east. 
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2015
Ah, yea those people piss me off as well, A thing I've noticed with them is most of em have this apathetic view on people with depression and other troubles.  Sorry if I was coming off like that.
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2015
It's okay, I just took it wrong because of people like that.
I hate them, they act like our problems aren't anything because of people in 3rd world countries, but then will whine about stupid "SJWs" (I use that term loosely for a reason) whining on the internet about nothing :| Or act like THEIR own problems are worse than any thing else in the world. 
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brentcherry Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Professional Interface Designer
I agree. And thank you! :D
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015
No problem mate. :)
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DarkVikingMistress Featured By Owner May 26, 2015  Student Writer
Yep, I support the differences and freedoms of both genders and realise life is difficult for both of them...in interestingly unique ways to each gender.

Also you should mention feminism bangs on about females so much it doesn't take into account or can even be transphobic towards nonbinaries.
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner May 26, 2015
I also notice all the "oppression" crap they claim, didn't happen and doesn't happen to either of my grandmothers, either of my mom/stepmoms, none of my aunts, none of my cousins, nor my sister, they aren't oppressed...  And we are Lower to Middle Class.

I never knew what a nonbinary was until now.  If I may ask is it basically a person who acts like neither or both?  In which seems kinda fitting for myself, granted I'm not sure if it only applies to females.  Thanks for teaching me a new thing and as always I appreciate it. :)

Honestly, I could put a million and one things [metaphorically] about modern day feminism, but I'll just stick with me grandmum's statement about my generation as a whole, "They don't work for much, but expect everything to be given to them, kids are like narcissists anymore, disrespectful, snotty, and full on rude, they weren't like that back in the day." Honestly I'll trust her more than a couple of teenagers, as she's been around longer and worked longer.  
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DarkVikingMistress Featured By Owner May 27, 2015  Student Writer
nonbinary.org/wiki/Nonbinary_g…

This is a good resource on what non binary is but a summary is that someone isn't quite a defined male or a defined female and is actually closer to a middle spectrum...
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner May 27, 2015
Alright, thanks mate. :)
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OmicronPhi Featured By Owner May 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Because (1) feminism has accomplished more, (2) egalitarianism is way too broad of a term that (3) doesn't take existing systems of oppression into account, and (4) feminism is an egalitarian ideology.
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner May 26, 2015
Sorry for the Long Wait/Reply.... :(

1 - Yes, in the past they have, and I honor them for that; however, nowadays they are causing quite the stir.  Especially with Double Standards, Hypocrisy, and Anti-Male Sexism.

2 - Personally that can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing depending on how you look at it.  I and most others believe everyone should have the same opportunities, privileges and so on.  Granted most hate giving people with differing political ideas rights.  Hence why I'm strictly Libertarian.

3 - I hope your talking about the same type of "Oppression" I think of, and not implying it to the 1st World.  When I think of oppression I think of the oppression in the USSR, WW2 Germany, Italy, Saudi Arabia, and so on.  If you are implying on places like America, I can't really call it oppression, yea it can call it disadvantages, but definitely not oppression, otherwise they wouldn't be able to do most things are doing today.

4 - In theory it is; however, most of it's followers tend not to think that way, mostly the radicals are misandrists, the lites and classicals are probably the only ones I'll consider anywhere near egalitarians, bless them for it. :)
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Commander-Dominic Featured By Owner May 23, 2015
So much yes.
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner May 23, 2015
I could of added a Hell-of lot more to.  I'm sure everyone can. :)
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Commander-Dominic Featured By Owner May 23, 2015
Yep.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner May 22, 2015
Love the addition of the peace sings in the gender circles. :)  
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ColumbianSFR Featured By Owner May 22, 2015
Thanks.
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